The Podcast

Bending
the Curve.

Different voices. One goal. A physician-executive who believes the most important conversations about healthcare aren't happening in hospitals — they're happening everywhere else.

"The system will not change because of one voice. It will change because of many."

Latest Episode Episode 01
The Chief Health Officer Revolution: What Fortune 500 Companies Are Finally Getting Right
Why the most consequential healthcare decisions for millions of Americans are now being made in corporate boardrooms — and what that means for the future of workforce health.
With a Fortune 500 Chief Health Officer
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Dr. John Jefferies in the studio
The Premise

Different voices.
One question.

Every episode asks the same question from a different vantage point: how do we make the financially rational choice and the clinically optimal choice the same choice? There is no single answer. That's the point.

Economists, benefits directors, patient advocates, clinicians, policy thinkers — each brings a perspective the others don't have. Disagreement isn't a problem to be managed. It's where the useful ideas come from.

Episodes

The Archive

Season 1 · Launching 2025
01
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The Chief Health Officer Revolution: What Fortune 500 Companies Are Finally Getting Right
Why the most consequential healthcare decisions for millions of Americans are now being made in corporate boardrooms — and what that means for the future of workforce health.
With a Fortune 500 Chief Health Officer
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02
Coming Soon
Prevention Isn't Passive: The Economics of Keeping People Well
The numbers behind preventive care are compelling. So why does the system consistently underinvest? An honest look at the incentive structures that keep us treating instead of preventing.
With a Health Economist
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03
Coming Soon
The Incentive Problem Nobody Wants to Talk About
Provider ownership, referral loops, and the structures that make treating illness more profitable than preventing it. A frank conversation about how the money actually flows.
With a Healthcare Policy Researcher
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04
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Five Percent, Fifty Percent: The Maths of a Preventable Crisis
5% of patients drive 50% of healthcare costs. Most of those conditions were preventable. What does that number mean for how we should be allocating resources — and attention?
With a Public Health Researcher
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What to Expect

Honest.
Uncomfortable.
Useful.

This isn't a show about inspiring stories of individual resilience. It's a show about the structural failures of a $5.3 trillion industry — and the serious people trying to fix them.

Every guest is asked to come prepared to be wrong. That's the only condition.

I
No false consensus. Guests are chosen for the quality of their thinking, not the comfort of their conclusions. If two guests disagree, both are right to be here.
II
No easy villains. The system isn't broken because of bad people. It's broken because of misaligned incentives. That's a harder, more honest conversation.
III
Evidence over anecdote. Personal stories matter. They are not, on their own, policy. The data has to be part of the conversation.
IV
Solutions, not just critique. Diagnosing a broken system is the easy part. Every episode ends with what might actually work.
Your Host
Dr. John Jefferies
Cardiologist · Wharton MBA · Chief Medical Officer, Daxor
Team Cardiologist, Memphis Grizzlies

Thirty years inside the healthcare system — as a clinician, researcher, academic leader, and business executive. He is not a critic observing from a distance. He asks these questions because he has seen, from the inside, what happens when they go unanswered.

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